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Ran into a situation with a Microsoft Wireless Laser Mouse 7000 that also seems to plague the Wireless Laser Mouse 8000. When placing the Laser Mouse on its charging cradle, the LED on the top of the mouse slowly flashes green for a few seconds, as if it was successfully charging the NiMH battery inside, but then switches to rapidly flashing the LED red.

Taking the rechargeable battery out also results in the flashing red LED. So, the battery is clearly not being recharged. This is further corroborated by the short battery life.

Microsoft LaserMouse 7000 upside-down with open battery compartment

Microsoft LaserMouse 7000 upside-down with open battery compartment

I saw online that some people have found some sort of button underneath the battery and that it’s not being depressed. However, the mouse I was having problems with did not have such a button. There is a small hole under the battery, but no switch or button in the hole.

Upon further investigation, I noticed that the positive metal plate in the battery compartment of the mouse has two plastic rails holding it in place.

Battery removed showing the plastic rails at the positive conductor

Battery removed showing the plastic rails at the positive conductor

When putting the battery inside, the rails tend to press back against the top of the battery such that the battery’s tip doesn’t make good contact with the metal. Since the metal plate is tapered inward, it only makes reliable contact with the battery when the battery is pushed all the way down into the compartment.

Notice the short tip on the rechargeable battery and the rails pressing back against it

Notice the short tip on the rechargeable battery and the rails pressing back against it

As a result of this plastic getting in the way and preventing the battery from making contact with the positive conducting plate, of course it can’t recharge. It also explains why it only charges for a few seconds–just until the battery slips out of position and loses contact. However, the fix for this recharging problem is rather simple.

Fold the paper (left); place on top of battery (center); insert into mouse (right)

Fold the paper (left); place on top of battery (center); insert into mouse (right)

  1. Cut a small piece of paper a little shorter than the length of the battery and about twice as wide
  2. Fold the paper in half to achieve a thickness of two sheets of paper
  3. Place the battery into the battery compartment
  4. Put the paper on top of the battery
  5. Close the battery cover

The cover should go on snugly so that it firmly presses the battery into the compartment. That will enable the positive tip of the Laser Mouse’s battery to stay in contact with the positive conductor plate. If it doesn’t press firmly enough, add one more sheet that’s half the width of the first one (for a thickness of three sheets).

After applying this little fix, the problem mouse’s LED properly throbs green and charges up completely.

(Update: Added photos)

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175 Comments

  1. Ryan says:

    I have the MS 8000 series KB + Mouse – and this has been a problem for me for a number of months now. What I always used to do was swap the mouse battery with one from the Keyboard, while the old mouse battery would be charged up in the keyboard. But now recently I’m getting the red lights on the keyboard as well.

    Finally – can you take some photos to illustrate the above method? Thanks.

  2. Steve says:

    I had the same problem with my Laser 7000. It would appear to charge for a few seconds with the flashing green light, then change to a flashing red light. After reading the comments above I took a look at the battery contacts in relation to the battery itself. In my Laser 7000 I found that the supplied mouse battery’s positive terminal is noticeably shorter than a typical dry cell’s terminal. To resolve the issue I cut a small piece of metal and inserted it between the battery compartment’s contact strip and the battery’s positive terminal. Sure enough the mouse will now charge. Perhaps a better way to resolve this problem is to replace the battery with another rechargeable battery with a longer terminal.

  3. Peter Ridge says:

    Hi Ryan. Yeah, I meant to take photos but work has been very busy. I finally got some shots taken and will get them online soon.

  4. Peter Ridge says:

    That’s a good alternative, Steve, since regular batteries do have a longer positive terminal. Perhaps even cutting a short piece of a paperclip or some aluminum foil would do the trick. Just be careful that it doesn’t get away and end up shorting out something inside the mouse.

    I’ve seen comments from others online who tried replacing the included batteries but without success. Depends if you can find rechargeable batteries with a longer positive tip.

  5. Rob says:

    Perfect fix; worked exactly as described. Thanks for taking time to post this!

  6. Ella says:

    Wow!! Worked exactly as described, and saved me the hassle of taking the thing back to the shop for an exchange, which would just have had the same problem! Thank you!!

  7. I have also posted about this issue in the 8000 series mice. I’m not sure if your situation is specific to the 7000 series or if there was a hardware update, but there is definitely a switch in the 8000 series mouse I fixed. I might guess that they did an update to remove the completely superfluous sensor, but didn’t account for this additional problem in the revised design.

  8. Peter Ridge says:

    Thanks for stopping by Ngoc. I took another look and there’s a plastic band in the bottom of the battery compartment. Is this the “switch”? I couldn’t confirm it without opening the mouse but it does seem superfluous to have to detect the presence of the battery. If there’s no battery, the circuit is open and the charger won’t do anything anyway.

  9. Peter Ridge says:

    Ryan, photos are up.

  10. I don’t know about the 7000 series, but the 8000 series definitely had a metal band above the battery. That band was a switch used to detect the battery. It’s possible the band is plastic in the 7000 now or plastic across all models as an “improvement” or cost cutting measure. I use a Logitec mouse at home and have no such headaches though. :)

  11. Peter Ridge says:

    Ah, OK. I use a Logitech mouse too :)

  12. RottingOrange says:

    Bloody brilliant, exact problem with my 7000, what a cheapo Micro$oft product, lol. Only comment I have is the “thickness of two sheets of paper” won’t usually do it, folding it four or five times worked better for me. Thanks so much!

    :-)

  13. Michael says:

    Aah, just had to comment on this as it acctualy worked! This has been a problem with both my 7000 (work and home) and this solved it for both of them! MS piece of crap! =)

  14. Adam says:

    Really appreciate this tip. Worked like a charm.

  15. Peter Ridge says:

    Maybe a more green solution is to use some of the packaging or other superfluous paper that came with the mouse.

  16. Nil says:

    Merci!

    This solve my problem.

  17. Frustrated says:

    After weeks of futzing with this expensive wireless keyboard / mouse set, I was pissed! I even replaced the unit entirely to no avail.

    Thanks so much for taking the time and fixing something that clearly MS should have handled.

  18. Curtis says:

    Thank you. Really. You have saved me time, money and stress. Thanks for your post, it’s worth the time you took to put this up for all of us to use, and you’ve clearly helped to make our day better.

    Cheers

  19. Cdub says:

    Fantastic. Just got this mouse today and this saved me allot of agony. Instead of paper, I just cut a piece of thin cardboard from the packaging. Worked like a charm.

    Cheers

  20. Peter Ridge says:

    Hi Cdub. That’s a good use for the packaging!

  21. osxespresso says:

    same problem with my 7000, folded piece of paper fix worked perfectly! thanx!

  22. Melanie says:

    Thanks so much! You have provided a happy ending to a frustrating afternoon. :) I’ve never been so excited to see a throbbing green light.

  23. Peter Ridge says:

    Haha, good one, Melanie! Yes, green lights, whether solid, blinking or throbbing, are a happy sight.

  24. Melissa says:

    Worked for me! Thanks!!

  25. Q says:

    This worked on my 7000. Awesome, thanks!

  26. hans cornet says:

    sorr, but none of all works for my 7000. Stipid I I can’t get it to work. Even tried to buy a new battery, but that now, after a few days, refuses to charge as well.

  27. Peter Ridge says:

    Is it still a new mouse? Maybe you just got a faulty mouse or charger. If this fix doesn’t work and a new battery doesn’t work, you might try exchanging the mouse. If you have a friend with the same mouse, you might try his charging station.

  28. Wytze says:

    Hi Peter,
    Thanks for providing the solution to this problem.
    In my case: a 7000 series mouse, place it on the charging cradle, one (sometimes more) ’slow’ green flashes, followed by ‘quick’ red flashing. Some other post suggested a malfunctioning ‘is there a battery inserted’ detection switch as cause. In my case the switch is a round piece of metal in the mouse battery compartment which is pushed slightly away when a battery is inserted. Suggested solution here was to make the battery slightly thicker. In my case this did not help. Note that the piece of folded paper on top of the battery would also result in this switch to function more reliable.
    In my case, the root cause Peter found – positive tip of battery is not long enough to make a reliable contact – allowed me to solve the problem.
    I noted that some AA cells have a lightly longer tip than others. I just inserted one with a longer tip: done! (didn’t find how to insert a picture, otherwise I could show you, but it is pretty obvious. The battery I had with the longer tip was in total also slightly longer than the one with a shorter tip)
    I wondered: why is the contact ‘good’ for using the mouse and ‘bad’ for charging? Perhaps this is due to today’s charging systems: They ‘pulse’ charging current into the battery and measure the battery’s response to determine if it is fully charged, defective, etc. This ‘pulsing’ makes the charger very susceptible to less-than-perfect battery contacts. Perhaps that could explain.
    In any case: still looking at a ‘slow’ flashing green led on the mouse: it is charging! Peter: thanks!
    Wytze

  29. Peter Ridge says:

    Hi Wytze. Yes, a shorter than normal tip does exacerbate the problem. The second and third photos in the post illustrate this–the plastic gets in the way. Steve, in comment #2, just inserted a piece of metal to fill the gap. You can probably stick a section of a paper clip, aluminum foil, or wire to improve the connection.

  30. dxntxn says:

    I read on another site that the battery supplied was too thin to make proper contact. I tried the paper and aluminum foil suggestions without success.

    It finally ocurred to me that if the battery was the problem, get a new battery. I put in a new rechargeable battery and it works wonderfully now.

    Good luck!

  31. Beatleg says:

    It works! Thank you very much

  32. Marilynn says:

    Thanks for the pictorial, so I could see and understand where to change and replace the battery. Truly appreciate your assistance!

  33. gerard says:

    awesome! thanks for the tip!!

  34. gerard says:

    nevermind, started doing the red thing again unfortunately.

  35. Greg says:

    FINALLY!

    Thanks for resolving this really annoying problem.

  36. Fred Saberhagen says:

    Thank you!

    I bought 50 of these suckers and so far all of them had this problem-until now.

  37. Peter Ridge says:

    Wow! 50 of them. That’s a lot of mice.

  38. Julie says:

    I had the same problem with my mouse. Im trying that little piece of paper trick, I just put back the mouse on the charger again. Its flashing green now (FINALLLY), Ill try in a few hours to see how it goes. But so far, this is the best option I had all day after consulting I dont know how many forums/troubleshooting boards.

    Thanks =DD

    /rawr

  39. followchrist says:

    Thanks you so much, it totally worked. I was about to take my mouse back because I would charge it over night and it would only last like 2 minutes before dying.

  40. followchrist says:

    Ok so mine went back to red as well, what I did was shave a bit of the plastic on the inside of the rails and then took a small flathead screwdriver an bent the + connecting blade in a bit to make better contact with the battery, its been a few minutes and it seems like its working.

  41. Peter Ridge says:

    Yeah, if the adding paper trick doesn’t work, then improving the contact with the positive terminal is the next step. You’re the first to shave the rails. Others have done it by sticking a piece of paper clip, wire or aluminum foil to fill the gap between the battery and the metal conductor in the mouse.

  42. Peter:

    Yeah, I had a bit of a budget windfall and thought I’d treat some of my 300 users. Plus the 7000 was on sale.

    Who knew it was going to turn into a make-work project?

    Still have 40 to go…

  43. Tiexin Guo says:

    Amazing!
    A lot thanks!

  44. Iona Meyer says:

    My hero! This mouse has been a royal pain since it was 3 months old. Thanks so much for the easy inexpensive fix!!

  45. Blizzardnz says:

    Holy crap. I doubted this. I thought it was so stupid. But hell it worked. I have been having problems for a couple of years now. first was the 7000 mouse. but I took it back to the shop and they couldnt fix it, so I asked for a replacement and I did not want the 7000 back so I asked for the new one at the time that cwas just released into the country. the 8000. it was all good but after about 6 months I started having the same problems. I thought to myself oh shit not again. Well thanks buddy youve solved it. But I’m hopeing it wasnt just a coincidence, coz I know it sometimes did charge. but time will tell. In the meantime Thank You.

  46. Peter Ridge says:

    Hi Blizzard. Glad it worked out. If it still doesn’t charge, then you’ll need to fill the gap between the positive tip of the battery and the positive conductor in the battery compartment. Just use a piece of foil, bare wire or paperclip.

  47. eric do says:

    Fantastic! Thank you for taking the time out for this… Luckily I don’t like to fiddle too much and immediately rush to the blog sites to find fixes, and 9 of 10 times someone has figured them out. Thanks again Peter!

  48. Cha says:

    Awesome fix. Been on some MS forums and most of the users were kinda in the “out of luck-send to MS” boat. This did it for me. Now the mouse charges great.

  49. Peter Ridge says:

    Thanks Cha. Feel free to link from those forums to this post so everyone can quickly get their mouse working.

  50. John Smith says:

    Worked perfectly. Solved my problem thanks bro

  51. Mike says:

    Thanks a lot! My mouse is alive again :-)

  52. Jenn says:

    Thank you for posting the solution! I bought this mouse for my husband, who is an avid gamer and has the messiest desk in town.. which makes for difficulty with wires on the desk. He didn’t seem to think the flashing red light while charging was a problem.. but I did. I’m an obsessive worrier.. it’s just what I do. So, I hopped on the ‘net and looked it up… and you were the first post I came to! I used the paper, and it’s been about thirty minutes and still steady throbbing green! Thank you!!! If this fix stops working, I will just spring for a new rechargeable battery; hopefully I won’t have to for a while though!

  53. Fredy says:

    Thank you SO MUCH for the tip … specially for the pictures that truly express thousands of words.
    Thanks again!

  54. Lucy says:

    WOW! Thank You!!!

  55. Cindy says:

    Thanks so much, this worked and took me less than 30 seconds to fix! Brilliant! :-)

  56. Peter Ridge says:

    You’re welcome, John, Mike, Jenn, Fredy, Lucy and Cindy. Glad to see that the fix is working well.

  57. Grant says:

    Good information thanks. Based on your advice I put a blob of solder on the positive terminal of the battery to extend its length, and this did the trick.

  58. Peter Ridge says:

    Solder blob on the battery tip. Good idea.

  59. Bezalel says:

    I just bought this mouse yesterday after I told myself that unlike their software, Microsoft knows its way with hardware. But when even after a full night of “charging” the mouse refused to work, I started worrying (and looking for a troubleshoot using keyboard only :p).
    So thanks a lot Peter for posting this excellent explanation and simple solution. So far it works for me :)

  60. Peter Ridge says:

    You’re welcome, Bezalel. I have a Logitech cordless mouse (don’t remember the model at the moment) at work and it began to intermittently fail to move the cursor. So, I applied this same fix to it and the mouse works fine now. Looks like loose batteries are pretty common in mice these days.

  61. Sophie says:

    Thank you very much!!

    I’ve got my 7000 for over a year and I’ve just basically abandoned it after it suddenly stopped working. I decided to take it out and try fix it, but some reason it wouldn’t charge. I appreciate this a lot! Thank you again.

  62. JaG says:

    After trying many of the suggestions above, I replaced the mouse. With the new cradle that came with the new mouse, both the new and old mouse charge properly.

    The problem was with the cradle that came with the first mouse.

    -JaG-

  63. JohnH says:

    Just found this site and followed the instructions with my Microsoft 7000 mouse. After some experimenting I can position the battery so that it makes good contact both ends. No need for folded paper (so far). Also turned off the mouse via switch underneath while charging . . though probably not necessary. Thanks! I had that sinking feeling I had bought a dud . .

  64. Charly Barnard says:

    Such a simple fix, but such a big help! I have the 8000 desktop that I recently purchased new on eBay, was having this issue and figured I had wasted my money. Low and behold, a simple peice of paper fixed my issue. Thank you so mcuh!

  65. Lee says:

    Wow, two keyboard & mouse combo’s returned to the store and this was the perfect solution. Thanks for saving me yet another futile trip.

  66. AkWingnut says:

    Hi there, the problem I have is that when I place the MS mouse on the charging pad it heats up. It gets very HOT, not sure why so now I just change out the rechargeable battery when it turns red. Also does anyone suffer from lack of connection? I mean when using the mouse it sometimes stops moving and just sits there? Thanks for any input regarding this matter.

  67. Peter Ridge says:

    Does the charging pad heat up or the mouse? Usually, too much current being drawn because of a short circuit is the cause. If the mouse is getting hot and you still get that with a different battery, there might be a short circuit in the mouse.

  68. AkWingnut says:

    The mouse gets HOT you can feel the heat through the top of the mouse and the bottom part is even hotter. So like I said I just keep changing the battery. I personally only use the Sanyo Eneloop, what about the part of it losing connection to the bluetooth doggle? Can you help with that?

  69. Peter Ridge says:

    That’s not good. I’d return the mouse if it’s relatively new. Otherwise, replace it. It should not get hot like that. The heat may also be related to the problem of the mouse not responding (overheating).

  70. Zaxler says:

    Battery is not charging. The NiMH rechargeable battery that I use is 1mm longer than a non-chargeable battery hence there should not be a bad contact issue at terminal +. Tried the paper method but doesn’t work. I suspect the 2 pins underneath the mouse do not actually contact the 2 recessed points in the charging cradle.

  71. Peter Ridge says:

    Zaxler, get a couple pieces of wire and try connecting those points between the mouse and the charging cradle. Then, you’ll know if it’s a bad connection. You’ll want to clean off the connections too either with a pencil eraser or fine sand paper (could be tricky getting to the ones on the mouse).

  72. Zaxler says:

    There is no charging indicator blinking so you never know if the battery is being charged…until a few hours later you turn the mouse on and see if the indicator light glows green. I turned the mouse power off doing the re-charge.

  73. Peter Ridge says:

    Also try cleaning all the contacts, inside the battery compartment, on the outside of the mouse and the charging pad. If they’re oxidized, charging won’t work.

  74. Zaxler says:

    All contacts look shiny and not oxidized. Can’t the charger bring a NiMH battery from dead to alive? Battery doesn’t even show the red glow after blinking red a while – been used only 2 weeks. Not really sure if battery or the charger is dead. Any thoughts?

  75. Peter Ridge says:

    Even shiny contacts can have oxidation on them. Did you already try connecting the mouse to the pad with wires to verify that it’s not a connection problem? Also, does the battery charge up if you use an external charger? If you’ve done all these things and it doesn’t work, return it for another one.

  76. primoz says:

    I bought it today(7000)and guess what. The same thing as for all of you. I need to fix batery. I solved it with the paper. Thanks for good and simple solution.

  77. Zaxler says:

    Question – do you have mouse power button on or off when you do the recharge on the cradle provided?

  78. Peter Ridge says:

    I’ve done it both ways and both positions recharge. The off switch is to save battery power when you’re not going to be using the mouse for a while (e.g., for a mouse that wil be sitting idle at the office over the weekend or if you’re going on vacation).

  79. John says:

    This was a great guide. Fixed my problem. Used 10sec to find it with google search. Many THanks

  80. Tom says:

    Thanks for the help.
    This solved the “not charging” problem with my microsoft wireless laser mouse 7000.

  81. Brandon says:

    Never have I been in a trance from watching a slow pulsing green light. Simply amazing. Thank you!

  82. Peter Ridge says:

    It is rather mesmerizing isn’t it? Happy mousing. :)

  83. d says:

    thank you

    and a big fu to ms…i never expected a rrod on a mouse…

  84. Padge says:

    Not a happy Bunny as was expecting another trip to Costco and wasting loads of time. Had the 4 second green and then the flamin flasin red, but the fixes have sorted it out. My solution was a paper combo with extending the (-) spring to put more pressure on the (+) connection. Shame M/s didnt test it!! Thanks chaps

  85. Peter Ridge says:

    Padge, another clever variation. Thanks for the feedback.

  86. Christopher Scott says:

    This fixed my problem – thanks!

  87. Scotty says:

    Excellent, quick post-it-note and all working, thanks for taking the time to post this.

  88. robert plain says:

    Perfect cut a piece of paper and rolled it around the battery. Problem solved. THANK-YOU

  89. Eric Belmont says:

    Amazing! Much praise to you! Fire Bill Gates and hire you to fix everything! Thanks again!

  90. Peter Ridge says:

    LOL! Thanks, Eric. Happy mousing.

  91. Roman says:

    Wow, thank you so much, I thought I would need to throw this away and buy a Logitech.

  92. Daniel says:

    Awesome fix. Was just surfing to find a new battery to replace the original with and came across this forum. Didn’t have a great deal of hope as I had been to another forum before which had said to ‘wiggle’ the battery (which worked for the first charge) Now the second time charging, wiggling didn’t work. The folded paper trick did!! Thanks so much! And to everyone else with equally brilliant ideas here, thank you as well, who knows they may come in handy down the line as well!
    Green means GO! Hopefully I’ll be makin’ many more mouse tracks now! Thanks guys and gals!

  93. Stiebolt says:

    Thanks for the help, it sure worked with the mouse.

    However, since today I’m experiencing red lights whilst charging my keyboard.

    I’ve tried the paper solution; didn’t work. So didn’t a set of other rechargables and a normal set of batteries.

    Anyone have a solution to this problem please?

  94. Peter Ridge says:

    Stiebolt, for the keyboard, try bending the spring contacts out a bit. They might not be pressing against the batteries enough to charge properly.

  95. brittany says:

    Thank you so much! It worked perfectly! Very much appreciated. :)

  96. Axel says:

    Great. Helped me too with my 7000. Axel

  97. Sotis says:

    Sure it works, but the problem is not exactly what you are saying. It makes no difference, but just to let you know, the problem is the plastic piece at the bottom of the battery compartment, laying vertically to the battery around the middle of its length. Under that piece of plastic there is a switch, known at the ‘battery present’ sensor. sometimes the battery sits slightly above the compartment bottom, thus not pushing down on the switch, the battery makes perfect contact to the compartment pins, so the mouse works, but without the switch pushed, the battery does not charge. your trick with the paper, pushes down on the battery, causing it to correctly push the sensor switch, thus resolving the problem :)

  98. Peter Ridge says:

    Hi Sotis. Thanks for the feedback. Do you have some photos of the circuit board for this mouse? I’m very curious to see the actual battery sensor switch and how much travel it has.

    It appears that some owners of this mouse have contact problems since the paper trick doesn’t work for everyone. Some have bent the compartment pins to restore proper charging operation.

  99. Gan says:

    Thank you very much it works!!!!
    3 weeks of thinking how to fix this problem, than wisit this site and salvation:] I’ve got Wireless Laser mouse 8000

  100. Stiebolt says:

    @Peter: bending the contactd didn’t work out either… :(

    When I connect the keyboard to the device it turns green twice and then a flickering red light appears.

    Anyone els had/has this similar problem?

  101. dazza says:

    Good spot!! I never thought of that. I fixed it by putting a think piece of plastic behind the contact to move it closer to the battery
    Thanks again

  102. Zaxler says:

    Actually how do you know the battery recharging is working? I put in a new rechargeable battery, did the paper trick, always rest the mouse on recharge when not in use, but there is no blinking light to confirm that the recharging is indeed working. Do I have to wait till the mouse blinks red then I know the recharging is not working at all?

  103. Peter Ridge says:

    For the keyboard, I don’t know. Haven’t tried one. For the mouse, the LED slowly transitions from off to green while it’s charging.

  104. Zaxler says:

    Slowly transitions?…. – within a few minutes after the mouse is placed on the cradle? Even for a brand new battery which should have been fully charged? I always feel that I won’t know if charging is doing until the battery is low on power which might be 2 weeks after use then I will know if the charger is good or bad.

  105. Peter Ridge says:

    Correct. For the 7000 mouse, as soon as I place it on the cradle, the LED transitions OFF->Green->OFF->Green… as if it was a breathing indicator. “It’s alive!” :)

  106. Camryn says:

    Thanks so much, what a pain!

  107. Zaxler says:

    Hey Peter – it transitions to Green even while the power switch at the bottom is turned off? Even if a brand new battery is used?

  108. Peter Ridge says:

    The switch on the bottom doesn’t prevent re-charging the batteries. Yes, the LED will still throb green with the switch turned off and then go solid green when charging is complete. As for new batteries, it depends if they’re pre-charged and how long they’ve been sitting in a store/warehouse. Rechargeable NiMH batteries still self-discharge over time.

  109. Zaxler says:

    Thanks Peter. My last-ditch attempt is to buy a new pack of NiMH battery and see if recharging works. Current battery is never used off a pack which I bought 1 year ago. I did the paper trick, stretched the connectors in the battery compartment, and sanded the 2 pins which sit on the cradle but still no signs of a recharge. If still it doesn’t work have to throw this 7000 mouse in the garbage bin. Without recharging normally a battery dies within 2 weeks.

  110. Rxp1970 says:

    Thanks for the tip…I have this problem on both of my Microsoft Wireless 8000 keyboards and mouses…after applying “fix”…things seem to be working and the flashing red light problem appears resolved…beautiful!!!!!

  111. phantazn says:

    I just bought this a few days ago and the charging issue had been bugging the crap outta me. The fix worked instantly, and the green light has been throbbing for the past hour now, charging the mouse the entire time. Thanks a bunch!

  112. Zaxler says:

    Hey folks…Rxp1970 and phantazn …
    could you share what your FIX is to get the charging work…

    I just wanna make sure I miss nothing out.

  113. Chris May says:

    I am amazed that this seems to have worked! Thanks!

  114. Ilya says:

    the fact is that you dont have to need to do this :S you expect Microsoft to get it right, the metal pin is too short, the plastic rails in front of the connector :S mite as well just build a mouse for them :P

  115. Kat says:

    I just had to comment to say that you are awesome for sharing this! I have been so frustrated with my mouse! I was about to go try to buy a new battery, but you saved me some time and money! Thanks again!

  116. Brian says:

    Thanks – needed a thin(ish) bit of card wrapped around the battery and now it is charging happily.

  117. Matt says:

    Thank you so much for writing this simple yet fantastic fix. I’ve been struggling with this for almost a year now, and I’m glad it finally charges.

  118. Bonita Chokalatti says:

    Microsoft really ought to hire you! This was driving me absolutely nuts! Thanks for your attention to detail!

  119. Jeremy says:

    I tried this method after having the same red light problems with my mouse. It worked at first but then I found that after a few days, it would go back to being problematic. So I tried rolling a piece of paper around the battery like someone else suggested and it worked…for awhile..and then it went back to being unchargeable. So I got fed up, took out the piece of paper and just let the battery in there un”modified”. And for some reason, now its charging fine without the pieces of paper…but god knows how long it will charge before it gives me more problems..Microsoft did a horrible job on this mouse. Considering taking it back for a refund

  120. Tom says:

    Wow it worked like a charm. I think it’s really dumb, not your fix, but the fact I have to do that in order to have a functional mouse. Thanks!

  121. Davey says:

    I saw the two plastic “guides” on either side of the positive terminal sticking out, and they looked like they were preventing the (short) positive tip of the supplied battery from reaching the terminal. I just took a utility knife and cut off the two plastic guides on either side of the positive terminal. The spring on the negative side now pushes the positive tip tight against the terminal. It’s charging great now.

  122. Bryan says:

    A big thanks for your help here. For me the paper with tin foil didn’t work, but the idea of a solder ball did. It’s charging beautifully right now and the battery is nice and snug! Thanks again!!! (My wife was going to kill me for buying a defective $70 mouse. Thank god I fixed it before she found out!)

  123. Neuromancer says:

    Wow. I have had the 7000 series setup for about a year now and finally decided to see if there was a fix for this.

    I tried the paper trick on top of the battery, and that did not work. But I saw you mentioned a “button” underneath the batery that some people have reported. In your first picture that metal band in the center of the pbattery compartment, it is only attached on one side (the “hidden” side) It should fall into a recessed notch when the battery is inserted. However at the opposite end of it, I noticed it does not line up with the “notch” underneath it, so it is not being fully depressed and probably triggering a button underneath. Putting the piece of paper on that, allowed the battery to depress it completely and now my mouse is charging up :) 15 minutes now and no red flashing light.

    Thanks!

  124. Philip says:

    thank you thank you thank you, i have returned my mouse twice a still had the charging issue, your solution worked like a charm i used a piece of cigarette package for a snug fit.

  125. sam says:

    thank you. this instruction works for me.

  126. Peter Ridge says:

    @Davey: Wow, that’s really going at the solution head on. Thanks for the update. Glad it worked so well.

  127. Peter Ridge says:

    @Neuromancer: Thanks for the additional info on that plastic band being part of the switch/button. I had suspected it but wasn’t sure without opening the mouse completely. From the various replies, it sounds like some people have the switch problem whereas others have the electrical contact problem.

  128. Ajaz M says:

    @ Peter. Hi, thanks for the fix. I have Desktop 8000. While this fixed the mouse issue, the Keyboard still keeps blinking red(less than 2 months old)Tried your method as well as replacing batteries, still no go.

  129. David Harrington says:

    Thanks,

    This has been driving me nuts.

    D.

  130. Peter Ridge says:

    @Ajaz: Hi, you’re the second person who has encountered this problem with the keyboard. What kind of batteries have you tried so far? Unfortunately, I don’t have one to test with but will see if anyone I know has one. If you have any more info, do let me know.

  131. DG says:

    For what i heard and it seems to work here, is that you have to recharge the battery more often. When it blinks red, just get it off and place it again (mostly when it was empty). When you’ve done this like 10 times its charges up.

    Recharge earlies to not get this problem.

  132. Peter Ridge says:

    @DG: Thanks for the info!
    @Ajaz: Give DG’s suggestion a try and let us know how it works for your case.

  133. Kevin Parkin says:

    Paper method didn’t work but inserting suitably-sized washers at the spring end of the battery compartment did.

    It seems that the extra pressure improves the contact.

    Both mouse and keyboard had red blinking light problem. Both now solved.

  134. Peter Ridge says:

    @Kevin: Lots of creativity brewing here :)

  135. Ajaz M says:

    @ Peter/DG
    The existing batteries just dont recharge through the Keyboard charger no matter what I do. I went and bought a regular NiMh Electrical Charger and 4 new NiMH 2000 batteries. The new batteries dont have the red LED blinking issue now when I insert and connect through the Keyboard Charger, probably because they are fully charged. I recharged the earlier batteries in the electric charger and they recharged and inserted them again. This time though they work, if I connect the charger, again after a few seconds the RED blinking LEDs are back.

  136. Dotternetta says:

    Thanks for the tip! I now know where to look.

  137. Mclusky says:

    Awesome! It actually worked, thank you so much!

  138. Elaine says:

    I wrapped the paper snuggly around the battery. Working now.
    Thanks.

  139. NeoN says:

    Thanks a lot, now I understand why it flashed red.
    Can anybody say, how long it should be charged?

  140. Tyler says:

    Thank you! Fixed my problem…

  141. Peter Ridge says:

    Depends how dead it is. Just let it charge until the throbbing green LED becomes a solid green one.

  142. Bryan says:

    Wow thanks for the tip it worked like a charm on my 7000!

  143. Ragnar says:

    Thanks a lot! Paper on top of the battery and a thin piece of metal between the + pole and contact sorted it out.

  144. Dimitri says:

    Hi all,

    I must have an issue with my battery as none of the solutions work. What battery do I need to buy to replace the current one?

  145. Peter Ridge says:

    It should say on the battery. Mine is a nickel metal-hydride (NiMH), size AAA.

  146. Dimitri says:

    Thanks Peter – So any rechargeable battery will do as long as it is the same kind as the one it came with originally?

  147. Peter Ridge says:

    @Dmitri: Yes, any one will do as long as it’s a AAA NiMH. Of course, higher mAh rating will last longer. Also, so-called “pre-charged” rechargeable batteries hold their charge longer.

  148. Henry Richards says:

    I lost the instructions for my Microsoft Laser Mouse 7000. How do I open it to replace the battery? This is not the rechargeable model.

    Thanks

    Henry Richards

  149. Peter Ridge says:

    I’ve never seen a Microsoft Laser Mouse 7000 that wasn’t rechargeable. If it’s got a battery in it, there should be a battery compartment door on the bottom of the mouse.

  150. Nic says:

    Another solution is to just break the little plastic rails off.

  151. thefatbob says:

    Hi,
    Mouse (7000) worked great for 6 months then started doing this. This fix did not work for me :(
    I will try to find a longer battery.
    Am I the only one that thinks that MS should have put a hole in the dock for the laser so that the mouse would still work while being charged. I love the feel of the mouse, but come on, it has to work.

    Has anybody broken the little plastic rails off

  152. Peter Ridge says:

    @thefatbob: It would be cool if the mouse could work while in its dock. As for breaking off the plastic rails, someone left a comment saying that it worked.

  153. Unfortunately the solution didn’t work for me (it would give one green pulse and then go back to flashing red). I found that Energiser Rechargables 900mAh works fine though with no need for paper, cutting the plastic or extra metal.

  154. Peter Ridge says:

    @Anthony: Thanks for the feedback on a replacement battery.

  155. thefatbob says:

    Yeah Nic said that it would be a solution but. It sounds like a suggestion, not a comment that he did actually break them off. Anyways I put in a duracell rechargeable battery (with a white top, it’s supposed to be an eneloop rebadge) and everything is good and flashing green.

    Thanks for the blog

  156. Peter Ridge says:

    @ thefatbob: Ah, yes. You are correct. Nic didn’t say he actually removed them. I’d think the metal tab would come loose if you did.

  157. Marvin says:

    I’ve had this problem for a long time already with my MS 8000 wireless laser mouse. Does your ideas with the pictures also apply to my MS 8000? I haven’t had any luck with any of the suggested ideas short of replacing the battery. I.m going to try to find a new battery tomorrow, and if that doesn’t fix it… ??

  158. Marvin says:

    Hi Peter,
    Did you mean to say AA batteries instead of AAA on posts 145 & 147? Because mine just has one “AA” battery.

  159. Peter Ridge says:

    @Marvin: Others have indicated that the various fixes mentioned here worked for the 8000 as well as the 7000. The 7000 version of the mouse has a AAA size battery (you can see it indicated in the third photo of the post: NiMH-AAA). A quick Google search indicates that the 8000 uses a AA instead.

  160. Marvin says:

    Thanks, I should have noticed that. Also I haven’t actualy tried the paper clip trick yet either. I’m amazed at the amount of replies that are so specifically on the same problem. Surely these threads will get through to the MS team!

  161. Larry says:

    Thanks, I tried a slightly different solution, I wound tape around the battery (made the battery slightly thicker, and now it is charging away. The switch in this mouse is of the curved metal? type, I don’t know where the sensor is actually located, but when the paper didn’t work….

  162. Marvin says:

    Hi Larry,
    What model and production date is on the back of your mouse?

  163. Alex says:

    The weird thing I had was that my 8000 charged just fine from my desktop, but not from my laptop (new Vaio). I thought it was a problem with the laptop USB port. The paper trick fixed this – now it charges from the laptop too. Thank you!

  164. YtouchPro2 says:

    Thanks for the fix to this problem. I had to do the paper AND small piece of metal on the positive terminal to get it to work properly. Threw out a good 7000 mouse to get this one as the same thing has happened!!.
    Thanks again.

  165. James says:

    I have had the same problem since I bought the mouse and nothing I have tried has ever worked. The mouse simply will not charge a battery anymore. At first it was intermittent but now it fails to charge every time. I finally gave up trying to fix it and just bought a separate charger that I use. But it sucks that Microsoft has not addressed this issue and that I paid extra for a product that has an obvious design flaw.

  166. steve yard says:

    Thanks for the fix. Worked great for me and my 7000 Wireless mouse. Can’t believe MS doesn’t test their stuff before it goes out the door. :/

  167. Don says:

    Re the individual who used the paperboard from the packaging… Maybe MS should print some instructions on the packaging itself… dashed-line cut-out with instructions how to “complete” the mouse!

  168. Narayan Kanoor says:

    Peter, excellent diagnosis, and work around. I also think a penny or a small metal disc at the neg. end will also push the battery towards the contact. Another solution is to glue a small strip of sponge on the battery cover. I also found that taking the battery out and reseating it will sometimes fix the problem. Anyway, thanks for posting the pictures and providing a solution. There is nothing in the documentation to even suggest what this flashing red LED means.

  169. Charlie says:

    The green light throbs and glows brightly indicating the long awaited recharging has successfuly begun. I continue to stare at the lime green beauty in complete amazement. Away with you nasty red blinker! Forever banished (I hope) from my desktop. ;) Thanks Peter!

  170. Zoey says:

    Thanks~ It really worked!
    You are amazing!
    I can’t believed that MS didn’t test this product before the sell it! It works good in the beginning then it got bad.

  171. Rany says:

    Thank you for taking the time to post this. It helped fix my issue !!

  172. Kyle Sutton says:

    I just inherited my MSWM 7000 from my boss (probably because is stopped charging for him). Your insight took care of the problem. Now I can mock him openly for not using Google in a proficient manner.

    Small victories make the war seem winable.

    Thanks

  173. Bob Lib says:

    I agree with Neuromancer on November 24th. I bent my positive contact so that the fit to the battery was bolt tight and it still wouldn’t charge. I noticed the curved piece of metal behind the battery that clicks like a switch when I pressed it with the a paperclip. So I jammed a wad of paper on the curved metal so that the battery would depress it when replaced. That finally did the trick for me. I think the roll of paper is the right solution butit fixes a different problem.

  174. john says:

    How random is this whole problem, wtf is up with micrsoft.

    anyway did as suggested and it worked! and i did as one user suggested and used some of the paper from the destructions! double result!

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